Ok its wrong but to have an event of an animals natural instint and trianing them for is no differant than hourse raceing and even boxing so before these actavist start talking and getting attention the real issue should be told is that it breeds crime and that just because thay are fighting dogs does not make house raceing or any other animal event or attraction (ZOO) more humain

Just point me in the right direction and look the other way......Let's see how they like being made to fight for their life...No punnishment that they get will equall what they have done.

Learn how to spell horse...

these people need to be put away for life

Real Deal. First off it is Horse Racing not Hourse Raceing which shows the level you are on. 2nd to make any animal fight for the enjoyment of a human and then beat them, shoot them or any other cruel act and should be punished with more then a slap on the wrist. With Boxing humans enter knowing they will get beat. While horse racing has it's issues also it is not any anyway the type of abuse these dogs go through. Please do not try to say this is nature because it is not. This is wasted humans that should be eaten alive by the dogs they torture.

I agree! In boxing you don't get your skin ripped off of your body either! Hello! These dogs don't have a choice to go in and fight, they are made to! How would you like it if somebody threw you in a ring and made you fight or die and the other person started ripping your skin off and biting you to the bone? I just don't think you would like that! I think they should get the worst possible penalities!!!

I agree! In boxing you don't get your skin ripped off of your body either! Hello! These dogs don't have a choice to go in and fight, they are made to! How would you like it if somebody threw you in a ring and made you fight or die and the other person started ripping your skin off and biting you to the bone? I just don't think you would like that! I think they should get the worst possible penalities!!!

The people that are responsible for these actions deserve to be punished the exact same way.

Put them in a pit, if they don't fight each other, start shooting them. They'll fight.

Make them fight until only one is left standing. Then turn him loose publicly and let the people finish him off.

Oh my God! You can't spell and you were allowed to graduate? And what mentality! First of all, dogs are not bred or born to tear each other apart! If you got that from your "first grade" reading that you are mistaken. It is not in their nature to be mean or aggressive. We (the humans) are the only ones that train them that way. Most if not all dogs love unconditionally. They make wonderful pets and companions and sadly even if you mistreat it, it continues to love you. You on the other hand should be hung by your balls and hung out in an arena and all the dogs that you so defend should be set free to "love you"

what an ignorant comment. I work at a zoo and if we didnt have zoos (who spend thousands to protect and keep wild animals safe and healthy AND ALIVE)many of the animals you see would be extinct.We're here because we APPRECIATE that humans aren't they only creatures of God. Horses are meant to run and thats what they do in races. can you really say that dogs were meant to fight one another and if they dont fight then they should be killed?? REALLY?? Your argument is completely stupid.

Seriously? You're gonna compare dog fighting to boxing? While they both are brutal and violent sports you're forgetting that a conscious, free-willed decision is made by the participant in only one of these. I'll let you decide which one that is...you also spelled humane wrong, genius.

Seriously? You're gonna compare dog fighting to boxing? While they both are brutal and violent sports you're forgetting that a conscious, free-willed decision is made by the participant in only one of these. I'll let you decide which one that is...you also spelled humane wrong, genius.

real deal- you are a piece of crap and don't deserve the air you breathe. Someone should hold a spelling bee with you and these dogs then shoot you in the head when you lose. die in a fire.

I think alot of people do not see the real offense here. First the inhuman treatment to the dogs and the cruelty they endure is unbelievable. Second the crime related activities that go along with the dog fighting, drugs, gambling and illegal activities. It seems that this is a battle that can't be won. Because of the illegal dealings going on they will never stop this completely, and so the poor animals will have to suffer the consequences. To bad they don't put the people who fight these animals in the ring and let them fight it out or be shot in the head and thrown in the river. What does it matter they have no remorse for life.

What's wrong Real Deal???? Nothing left to say on that ridiculous argument or did you realize that you are a complete idiot (the nicest way I can put it without profanity). Do us all a favor and don't breed. It's a shame we are of the same species. Althoug you are on the low end of it.

I think this is the most disgusting thing you could do to an animal. I feel that the people that did this should have the same fate. Put them in a ring and let them fight each other to the death no weapons just there bodies and see how they like it, and if they survive the fight dont give them medical treatment and just let them sit in there cell until the next fight. people say the dogs are bad but they were trained that way the dogs arent the problem these sick and twisted people are. I say they need the eye for and eye punishment.

What is wrong with you? Pits got a bad rap because of people who exploit them. They can be loving animals that get along well with other dogs until "man" gets ahold of them and abuses them into doing what any warm blooded creature will do under despicable circumstances. I think the people that use these beautiful animals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. (I wonder what it would be like for a person to be put through the precise treatments that these animals are being put through) People like you make me absolutely sick!!

It's a dogs natural instinct to fight?? Where are you from? A animal that is MADE TO FIGHT and trained to do so by a human is not a natural instinct!!! I will agree that HORSE RACING and other animal attractions have their flaws BUT fighting animals as some sort of sick sport is well just SICK!!! These events take place in unimaginable conditions for these poor animals who by the way have no choice. If they had a choice I'm sure they would much rather be sitting in a home where people loved them! The people who were arrested in this crime should be tortured and then thrown in a ring with one of the dogs they abused...and then they can fight for their life!! It just makes me sick to know that people (if you can call them that) really do this to animals.....and then it makes me think how do they treat other people! I have been reading that dogs are being stolen right out of peoples back yards...and it makes me wonder if someone needs them for dog fighting!!! If I ever caught someone stealing my dog out of my back yard they would be shot right then and there!!!

Another sad part is that Pit Bulls can be such nice dogs when they are not trained to be like this, but because of these evil humans, people think all pit bulls are scary and bad.

Are you kidding me?!?!?!??!? Anyone in their right mind knows that dog fighting is sick, twisted and wrong!!!!! Bullbating was outlawed hundreds of years ago for very good reasons. To use the theory that that is what these dogs are bred for is beyond stupid. Humans are supposedly the caretakers of this planet. Humans domesticated dogs, horses, cats, birds, sheep, cows, pigs, et cet. Humans have a moral and ethical obligation and responsibility to care for animals, all animals, but in this case domesticated animals, both responsibly and ethically and without any form of abuse and this is way beyond abuse. It's time we started acting like the "superior" beings we claim to be. And NO, I am not involved with or affiliated with any sort of nut job animals rights group or any sort of group. I was just raised to know and understand the difference of right and wrong. By the way, comparing dog fighting and horse racing is like comparing water and fire - get a clue!!!

The way these dogs are "trained" is by abusing the shit out of them so they are in constant fear for their life and will attack anything or anyone that comes near them. NO BREED OF DOG will naturally just attack to kill. Some dogs are prone to bark and snap at something or someone they are weary of. But they are not trying to kill. People have to train them to do that. You can't blame any breed of dog for this.

real deal is a tard duh duh boxing is the same duh duh thats what my pappy tought me

The issue here is that we have a generation of men who think this ok and enjoy this. They don't see that this type of thing is not normal from mainstream society and that they are becoming desensitize to violence and brutality sinking to a way of thinking that is very primitive. And at some point I wonder if the will jump up to treating humans like this. I say treat them this way. They need to be taught this is not accepted.

These scum of the earth individuals that promote and are associated with this horrific act should be tortured by beating, burning and drowning and I will like to personally conduct it.

First of all you need to go back to second grade. Second do you know what the dog is put through? NO YOU DON'T!!!! So if you dont know what really happens DONT make a comment. Dogs will even get killed if they dont win. They dont have a choice, humans do have a choice to box.

First of all you need to go back to second grade. Second do you know what the dog is put through? NO YOU DON'T!!!! So if you dont know what really happens DONT make a comment. Dogs will even get killed if they dont win. They dont have a choice, humans do have a choice to box.

Let's see if these people go to jail and loose their ability to provide for themselves and their families like Micheal Vick.

For all you so called animal lovers, you know the ones that always want to jump on the band wagon when someone mistreats an animal. Where is your outrage, when PETA has over the past 11 years has put to death 21,339 animals. Where all those animals sick, injured, no some were put to death simply because PETA could not place them or could no longer afford to feed them. You can call it euthanize all you want but a dead dog is a dead dog no matter how they die!
http://petakillsanimals.com/

oldschool- so, if you had the choice of being put to death by lethal injection or getting ripped apart by dogs, you would have no preference...? That makes no sense. There are some things worse than death, like torture.

Wow...Perhaps fighting is a "natural" behavior. We can't even have a post where fighting and namecalling b.s. doesn't start to take over. Funny thing is, most the people calling others stupid about their spelling are spelling wrong themselves! For the record: Racing (not raceing) Horse and Humane (ie: humane treatment of animals) and Human (ie: humans often have utter disregard for life and love.

I don't care if you're illiterate--if you have enough sense to regard life with the respect it deserves--you are on a higher level than many--if not most people. Pits are amazing animals, powerful, full of intensity, intelligence, endurance...and loyalty. The dogfighting madness is one of the main things destroying this breed and its reputation--and humans are responsible for it! What assholes are we!? Well, not all of us. Yet the breed takes the crap for it. And then humans try and ban the breed! Banning a whole breed? Insanity! There are two pit bulls in my family, and a Cane Corso...and fuzzy Lhasa Apsos, and the cute fluffies fight and start crap way more than the "fighting" powerful breeds do.

Its okay though, Judgment Day is coming...we'll all have to pony up for the way we've lived the lives God gave us, and how we chose to use our free will. And how we've treated each other and ALL creations. Good Luck brothers and sisters...

Wow...Perhaps fighting is a "natural" behavior. We can't even have a post where fighting and namecalling b.s. doesn't start to take over. Funny thing is, most the people calling others stupid about their spelling are spelling wrong themselves! For the record: Racing (not raceing) Horse and Humane (ie: humane treatment of animals) and Human (ie: humans often have utter disregard for life and love.

I don't care if you're illiterate--if you have enough sense to regard life with the respect it deserves--you are on a higher level than many--if not most people. Pits are amazing animals, powerful, full of intensity, intelligence, endurance...and loyalty. The dogfighting madness is one of the main things destroying this breed and its reputation--and humans are responsible for it! What assholes are we!? Well, not all of us. Yet the breed takes the crap for it. And then humans try and ban the breed! Banning a whole breed? Insanity! There are two pit bulls in my family, and a Cane Corso...and fuzzy Lhasa Apsos, and the cute fluffies fight and start crap way more than the "fighting" powerful breeds do.

Its okay though, Judgment Day is coming...we'll all have to pony up for the way we've lived the lives God gave us, and how we chose to use our free will. And how we've treated each other and ALL creations. Good Luck brothers and sisters...

Dogs rule, people suck! Boy would I like to be the judge those idiots are going to face. I would have them crying like the little snot nose a-holes they are.

I agree Dog fighting is wrong. But, and there is always a but!, All cruelty to animals is WRONG no exceptions. No one here is up in arms complaining about the cruelty associated with rodeos, deer hunting, boar hunting and the list goes on..... Bottom line, if an effort is going to be put together to stop these practices, then it should apply to all and not just single out one or a few.

PETA has the choice of setting these animals free back into nature or killing them, they chose to kill them. There are still these bleeding hearts who try to justify putting an animal down as being humane ... the humane thing is to let the animal back into nature and let nature take its course and take them back on it's own. If you think lethal injection is painless then let me use the same poison that PETA uses to put animals down and inject it in your arm then you can tell me if it is painless.

Please correct your spelling and usage people!

Now people who have to abuse animals with no regard for their well being are usually 1 step away from any number of criminal activities, it always starts with animal abuse (I worked for a criminal attorney for 10 years) and it is guaranteed they will try something even more dangerous. It's because they are desensitized to killing. I keep hearing the same story but people do not realize- most violent criminals start out by hurting other people first or killing animals then progress to people violence. Yes, I love animals (I am not an activist) but I also want to stop criminals too. Killing is not natural for any animal unless they live in the wild (for food, lets get it straight). Horse racing and dog racing is still not right but they also are not teaching the animal to "go for the jugular".

Ok now you went over the line. I love dogs and nature in general.... I respect and spend more time out in the middle of nature than I do at home.
Hunting is not even in the same galaxy as dog fighting, or any form of animal abuse. I hunt......... and its not just a sport.

If you go down that road you had better be willing to lump all Indians and all past generations into the "animal abuse" group. There are hunters/rednecks who are nothing more than trigger happy fools- true. In general however, most hunters respect nature and the animals which they hunt.

I can hear the posts coming.......... so for all those who think that we should do nothing but munch on berries and grass...... while living in the desert so as not to "interfere" with nature in the slightest way............. well lets just say........ have fun with that.

First off i would like to make it abundantly clear i think real deal is an idiot and that i think these people should be on death row (i would even throw the switch). I have four dogs, two of which sleep in the bed with my wife and i evey night.I like being around them more then humans most times, they surely do give unconditional love.No matter what mood you are in when you get home from or what else is going on they just love you to pieces and will stand there at the door for hours on end just waiting for you to get home so they can brighten up your day. However people use dogs legally also , like hunting wild boar ,duck hunting, deer hunting ,trained security dogs,police k9 units ect. the list goes on.Just a thought.(p.s. yes i agree these people should be thrown to the wolves)

frist of all these dogs were breed to fight thats the reason they have the biting power 10 times more then an other dogs and gray hounds that don't do good are put down and peta kill more dogs and cat than any one else

Pit Bull Dogs are not bred to fight unless that is what you are choosing to do. ANY dog or other animal can fight. I have a beautiful Pit Bull, she is a big baby house princess who has never been sent to fight and never will. She is very sweet and a good dog. I also know many many other people that own Pit Bulls for pets. The issue is not Pit Bull Dogs, the issue is mean people.

Real Deal and everyone else who thinks dog fights are just dogs doing their natural thing....In nature there's the alpha dog of the pack. They do fight to establish who is alpha but it's not in a "pit" with no escape. They have been bred and encouraged to fight by man. In nature they would escape or be run off from the pack and start up their own pack. Yes, nature is cruel at times but it's nothing compared to what man can come up with in the name of sport. Not survival, but sport!
It's amazing how some people are so ignorant.

I believe that humans are like a lot of other animals. In fact I believe that we are nothing more than another specie of animal. We walk the earth just as the rest of creation.

Humans have something that no other animal has however.... the power to create, and to destroy. There is no limit to the good that we can create.... and our potential for good is only paralleled by our potential for evil. Humans will die for their brothers, lay down our lives and stand in the way of those whom we love. Yet this same breed that we call man.....searches for new and bigger ways to destroy lives.

There is no breed of animal so complex, nor so unpredictable as the human race. I often times look at my sweet golden retreaver and think.......... "man if we could onbly be like her" :)

As I said however.... to behave as though we are more.... or LESS than nature is nothing short of ignorant. We are a piece in a puzzle. I will not back away and sacrafice my way of life the a "spotted mouse". I will live my life respectably and let nature take its course. Fitting into this life as long as it might last, and doing the good that I can as it is possible.

Some people don't realize that dogs and other animals are also made by God, our Almighty Father. They should be treated with respect and dignity just like any other human beings.
These sick men and women who participate directly or/and indirectly to this kind of illegal dog fighting must be punished with hard labor and BIG fines and when they are released, their inhumane and criminal offense must not be erased from their records for good. This database must be released to all agencies esp. pet stores to, at least, lower the percentage of this terrible crime and banned them from having access to animals (regardless of species).
These people & their acts are satanic and don't deserve to raise a family either (if they can do these to animals, most likely they would do these acts to their children).
I am so angry and whenever I see this kind of news, I pray to God that this must be stopped! Thank you to all the humane societies who are doing a fantastic job. I salute you!

YOUR NUMEROUS SPELLING ERRORS INDICATE WHAT LEVEL OF EDUCATION YOUR BRAIN IS OPERATING FROM. WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY YOU CAME UP WITH SUCH IGNORANT CONCLUSIONS. LET ME GUESS, REAL DEAL, YOU'RE GHETTO.

has anyone stopped to think that "realdeal" made those comments just to stir the pot if you will, if he did he truly did succeed.He even got the religious fraternity preaching.Although he really could be a very slow 6 y/o

Dog fighting is NOT a sport. It is cruelty to animals/torture and the responsible parties should be punished severely. Would you like to know how they get the bait to train these anilmals to fight? They either review the classified section of the newspapers for all of the "free to a good home" ads or they steal pets from their loving homes. Have you lost Fluffy or Spot? They may have been used for bait. Or sent to the labs for animal testing but that is a topic for another time. Once again, it is a CRIME. The people (if you can call the scum that) are breaking the law and need to be punished. I would love to have the sentence to be 10 minutes in a room with the anilmaks that they have tortured over the years while they are wearing slabs of meat around their necks.

Well, it is absolutely ridiculous to talk about this issue. For one, i don't know where i stand on this issue. However i find it difficult to understand the rationale behind jailing human beings on behalf of animals. I hope people that are fighting for these animals are equally fighting for fellow human being, to have equal rights, affordable healthcare, good public education and all that we help everyone to reach their God-giving potential(S). Similarly, I think UFC, WWF and others should be illegal but since the dominant culture is in favor of them nobody cares.

Dog fighting is much more complicated than just putting two dogs in a ring and seeing what happens. In training, they use little dogs or puppies as bait dogs. The dogs that are being trained will literally tear the bait dogs apart and are just basically there to get chewed on. The bait dogs will either be left for dead, used for next "training session", or killed and then replaced by another bait dog.

The fact that people make money off of another living creature suffer is sick and cruel. We are not a third world country!

WOW!!! Realdealwilliefield must not have gotten past the third grade. Either that or he just doesn't know how to type! Another example of no child left behind. As long as they attend class they can move on to the next grade.

WOW!!! Realdealwilliefield must not have gotten past the third grade. Either that, or he just doesn't know how to type! Another example of no child left behind. As long as they attend class they can move on to the next grade.

I own 2 pits and this just sickens me to death,to the 1st poster,most the people here are very angry with you but you are sadly wrong you don't know much about animals at all.horses love to run.i have owned horses at 1 time as well,and thoroughbreds just love to run anywhere,the problem is the people that own them they shoot them up with crap and that i am against,boxing i love this one never compare a dog to a human because dogs(any animal)is better then a human,they dont constantly screw each other over and they dont kill each other.Please research the breeds used for fighting and then go over to aspcacommunity.com and learn from real people how they have been targeted because of the breed of dog they love.these people like myself did not get a pit because they can be good protectors but because they are a wonderful family dog.you can have a pit for 14 years and he or she will never attack or bite anyone that is if they are raised right..these people that fought these dogs need to go to jail and to never own any kind of animal ever and as one person said put them in a ring with these dogs they abused and let them have justice.

ALL INVOLVED IN ANIMAL CRUELTIES SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE A CHILD MOLESTER, WITH A VEHICLE SPECIAL PLATE NUMBER & COLOR...SO EVERYBODY WILL
KNOW THEM...

Real Deal... are you serious? Honestly, I don't know why anyone would expect logical, intelligent thought from someone who either didn't take the time to check their post or, and this is the really sad part, doesn't know any better. My money's on the latter. Dog fighting is cruel and inhumane. Period. There is no excuse and anyone who compares this form of animal torture to a regal sport like horse racing is clearly lacking in some mental capacity But, hey, thanks for that opinion and that post. It really does remove any doubt about your intelligence!

To all the assholes that find nothing wrong with using dogs for their own insidious pleasure and profit. Email me. Mayhaps we can meet in a dark alley one night
Jake Castranda

I understand all of the uproar concerning dog fighting. But I do not hear the same objections when it comes to cock fighting or bull fighting. Where are all of you when these issues hit the news? I know they don't hit the news, because it appears that no one cares about these poor animals.

My husband and I own (rather she owns us) a pit bull that we rescued during hurrican Ike. She weighed 40 pounds, had recently birthed pups, had heart worms, fleas and ear mites. With good vet care, plenty of food and an abundance of love, she now weighs 65 pounds, sleeps in bed with us and is, by far, the most affectionate of the six dogs we have adopted over the past 35 years.

FIGHTING ANY ANIMAL should bring a mandatory jail term. This article is not about hunting or horse racing or zoos. It is about human beings, if you can call them such, that FORCE these creatures to fight to the death, whether by the hand of a human or another dog. There is no justification.

It is such a shame that so much negative publicity is given to incidents involving pit bulls. Banning the breed seems ridiculous to me, but I have to say that before I owned one, I had many of the same concerns. Putting a 60-150 pound dog of any breed in a small fenced yard with no space to run is inviting trouble. Those seem to be circumstances involved in most of the pit bull "attacks". Maybe those of us who are owned by one these loving canines could begin to educate the public about what a great breed these dogs can be when given room to exercise and unconditional love. I may be mistaken, but I believe Rachael Ray owns two pits. One is featured in the intro to her program. I doubt that it is "vicious". It's all in the nurturing.

Oldschool - are you kidding me?! "Set them free back into nature"? Since when is it natural for a domesticated dog to be "set free" and run wild? Everyone knows that dogs develop a pack mentality when they are forced to roam. You can't just allow dogs to run free like coyotes or they become wild & just as dangerous, if not more, since they aren't naturally afraid of people. I've seen that problem first-hand where local authorities had to capture & destroy dogs that were roaming in packs, attacking smaller dogs who were in their own yards. Dogs need to be taken care of. Forcing them to fend for themselves is cruel. Society can only blame itself when there are more dogs than we can take care of. That's why we nueter & spay.

i heart dog fights

i heart dog fights

Amazing...the ignorance that is clearly and now publically revealed.

All I have to say is that dog fighting and animal cruelty is downright disgusting. It is not natural and it is unlawful. I am fully aware of how animals are treated in zoos and sporting events such as dog racing and horse racing. These animals are WELL taken care of, much better than if they were in their natural habitats where they constantly have to defend their lives and search for food on a daily basis.

They are very well protected, fed and kept healthy by several governing agencies and kind, respectful people.

Please, do research and understand what you are voicing your opinions about before making comments that don't support your theories.

In Layman's terms (easily and widely understood in language) do not make ignorant comments and suggestions comparing disgusting human acts to treating animals with respect & providing health care.

Oh yes, in ignorant terms as well...all of the people that support animal cruelty, fuck you rotten scum, you will get yours.

Real Deal: I don't know if anyone pointed this out to you, I didn't read all the comments. No, I am NOT going to degrade you or call you stupid. But as far as logic goes, your first premise (natural instinct) is incorrect. Dogs were bred from wolves, pack animals. In no way is it natural for a dog to fight another unless they are fighting for dominance/territory/breeding rights/etc.- and usually dominance fights ARE NOT to the death. Pitting two dogs against each other in a ring in NO WAY is a natural setting, and in NO WAY will you get a natural response. The weaker dog cannot back out! Training dogs is actually training a dog to do something AGAINST an animals instict, or they would not need to be trained. Training a dog to fight another to the death is unnatural. Breeding a fighting dog is unnatural and dangerous. In NO WAY is this comparable to having animals in 'zoos', where they are bred sometimes in an attempt to save a speices of animal, and where most of the time they try to educate the public. If you want to make an argument, spend more time thinking logically and rationally.

First off let's hope these inhumane a holes get more than a slap on the wrist like Michael
Vick did. Second everyone needs to start petitioning their lawmakers for tougher laws. Third kudos to the joint law enforcement agencies which busted this ring. Fourth real deal you need to educate your self before you make any more ignorant comments about instincts, activists, or zoos. Fifth these dogs live a horrible tortured life that no living being should be forced into. Yes they are forced!People make a choice to have their faces beaten, the dogs have no choice.
We need tougher laws and obviously a better education system in this country!
SPEAK UP PEOPLE!!! Start getting involved to get things changed. Find out who your state reps are and write a letter and get everyone you know to write a letter to get tougher laws and punishments. Real deal work on that education first and I'm not just saying learn how to spell. Hint zoos just don't hold animals captive and who says forcing a horse to race for money is OK? Let's get off our butts America and stop the injusice even if it is one voice at a time.

As most of us agree, dog fighting is HORRIBLE, as well as any other animal fight. These creatures should never have the natural instincts heightened to the level humans have brought it to. Animals fight in nature to establish oneself, not to watch the fight for the pleasure of it. Unfortunately, sometimes the punishment doesn't fit the crime. I agree with most of you and think we should put these people in the same position as cocks, bull, dogs, and any other creature they can think of to fight and make them fight to the death and should they not win, shoot them in the head. My 72 year old grandmother has a 5 year old Pit Bull and he is the sweetest animal. I love him to death and I hate to think people are making these sweet, loving, loyal, fun animals either kill each other... Or be killed if they don't win a fight! Humans know when to stop fighting, we know when we're losing a fight, we can comprehend this. I am glad every time i hear about a fighting ring being found and shut down and the innocent animals being rescued.

Real Deal you're a blithering idiot! I hope you don't try to become a brain surgeon like Jethro of the Beverly Hillbillies sitcom.

Hey Real Deal WIlliefield, learn how to write. It is wrong.... Period. It's animal cruelty and it's different from horse racing in that the horses race and are rarely injured.

RealDeal sorry for all the hits your taking, but, you stuck your foot in it. Life is precious wether it be yours or an animals.On a good note the dogs that were confiscated from Vick's ranch were all rehabilatated(about 40 dogs, not all pits.) Have you seen a rape station? Or the towing chains that they put on these animals. I hope for the breeds sake that more people show the good of the animal bacause they aren't fighters naturally. Go google the early years of this breed and you can see the uses for them. Not fighting other dogs.....

I don't have anything against PEOPLE who fight dogs. I think every dog should own one!

Thanks Jamie for your posts; Real DDeal is obviously a bit short on the common sense or humanity!

Real Deal, what a creep you are! The lowest of the low. And I'll bet you vote and procreate! Please don't do either of those from this moment on...we don't need any more assholes like you. Thank God that you and people like you are in the minority, or insane asylums. You slimy worm, I can't even think of a name hateful enough to describe you. Dogs are the most wonderful of God's animal kingdom; the most loyal of creatures who are endowed with unconditional love. You think and write as someone who is seriously under-educated. Fry in hell idiot!

Damn Jim; like your posts!

I cant remember what country it was in, but there was a story of dogs that were abandoned in a pit when the owners didn't want them or when homeless pets were caught on the streets. I think it would be great for these individuals to be thrown in a pit together and the last one left gets prison!!!

Maggie, you are awesome!

It is about time that law enforcement took dog fighting seriously. Along with this cruelty to animals statistically crimes of illegal gun possession and drugs are also found. Hopefully other States will also stand up and do the right thing, especially those with weak laws against cruelty to animals such as MS, AR and TN. Laws are either weak or law enforcement turns the other way. Time to do the right thing and stop hiding behind the "good ol' boy" network.

Money, greed and to live a lifestyle, these people crave. At the torture and debilitating nature putting a living breathing smart animal thru this Just to live high on the Hog. Vicks is a perfect example of doing this. He got off extremely easy for the torture he inflicted on these poor penned animals who could not defend themselves. Look at all the terrible puppy mills out there. Puppys and other dogs being starved, and into feces covered pens, our society has turned into vicious,cruel humans. These animals had no right to speak up, as Children who cannot speak out and terrified of their assilants. Its a travesty our fellow humans put animals and children thru this kind of emotional and hurtful pain.

I volunteer for a no-kill animal shelter in St. Louis Missouri. I have met some of the many victims ( the ones that live...)of dog fighting rings.
I have had my face in the faces of over 30 pit bull terriers and terrier mixes. At least half of them were winning fighters: the other half, bait dogs. Sometimes we come across a few that were just abused and neglected prior to any training forced on them.
Never have I been afraid of attack: not from these dogs. Not to say that I am not cautious, as any person would be when caring for feral, abandoned, abused and neglected animals,for out of respect for the dogs we approach them with care, but afraid for my safety? No, never when it concerns a pitt.
My heart breaks for the ones that linger on in hopes of finding forever homes after being rehabbed. Most people won't take an ex fighter ( pitt-bull) for fear they will attack people.
They don't attack people: that is not normal behavior. They make good fight dogs because of their loyalty to people, their willingness to please, and physical strength.
These are the same traits that made them the ideal family companion animal in the 1920's and decorated heros of war. ( World War One.)
I have held them in my arms when they shut down.
I have restrained them, and then calmed them by holding them in my arms, when they rage against a dog passing in front of their kennel door.
I have held them in my arms when they act as if they will be beaten when they are startled by a sudden loud noise, or loud voice.
I have been witness to the amazing power that unconditional love has had, on these dogs, to heal their wounds: the really bad ones that we cannot see, deep inside their spirit. This same love also tames the most vicious of "killers." They fight because the have to. They kill because they have to. They know no other way of living, of being, until someone shows them that there is another way to be: until someone teaches them what it is to be a dog, and that it is okay to just be a dog. Some of them make friend with other dogs.( Yes, it is true, just like on "Dogtown." )
The love you get back from these dogs is immeasurable. Their gratitude is beyond comprehension.
The biggest miracle is their ability to get over the horrors that they have been forced to inflict and/or endure.
The greatest gift I have been given is to have been a part of their healing process. There is nothing better than seeing one of these dogs make it through to the other side, except for when they find the perfect forever home.

WHAT WOULD REALLY KICK ASS, THOUGH, IS IF THERE WERE NO NEED FOR ANY DOGS REHABILITATION: ESPECIALLY THOSE DOGS THAT FALL VICTIM TO THE FIGHT SCENE.
I WOULD BE PERFECTLY HAPPY TO NEVER HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING EXACTLY HOW AMAZING IT IS THAT THESE DOGS OVERCOME AND PREVAIL AGAINST THE HORRORS INFLICTED ON THEM BY THE SPECIES THAT DOMESTICATED AND BRED THEM TO SATISFY HUMAN DESIRES AND WHIMS.
And just as an afterthought, in case some smart ass wants to make a comment about first caring for the children of neglect and abuse, and how there are more important things to worry about than dog/animal rights:
I promise that smart ass that you will find that the same people actively fighting for animal welfare reform and change, are the same people fighting for child/social welfare reform and change. They are out there trying to create change, not just giving an opinion about things that they really don't care about, nor understand. It is not their own voice that they wish to have heard. They are speaking for those that cannot speak for themselves: those who cannot fight for themselves: the forgotten.

Nice post, Niecy. I agree that we all are resposible for change. I volunteer at a regional cancer center and am just now beginning to train my dog, Milo, to be a therapy dog. How sweet those dogs are when they are brought in to visit our patients. They're every breed, size and color and the patients love them. That's the sort of thing that Real Deal would ever understand.

To Niecy: On behalf of the dogs and those of us lucky enough to adopt one THANK YOU SO MUCH!

To Niecy: On behalf of the dogs and those of us lucky enough to adopt one THANK YOU SO MUCH!

FIGHT THEM DOGS TO THE DEATH... THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE MEANT FOR.... FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!

We really have some ignorant people in our society who get off on seeing and betting on dog fights. We also have to place as the number one
problem in our society that children are abused
and totally helpless to even defend ourselves. I
am an animal lover especially dogs. I spent $2000.00 trying to keep my fox terrier to get well and he was just too sick and had to be put to sleep. I was devastated for 2 months and still think about how sweet he was. I went to pet rescue and adopted another dog. When I got him he had various symptoms of being abused but since I've had him for 9 months and giving hims lots of love he has turned out to be the sweetest dog. Loves kids, other dogs, etc. and I wouldn't let anyone lay a finger on him. Funny - you can beat a dog and they will always come back to you for your affection. Never blame a dog for being mean as it's the owner not the animal. People should be prosecuted for all violent acts. I hope the U.S.Attorny's throw the book at them as they did in the Michael Vick case. Now prosecutors do your job...............................

Real deal all I can say is you are a true idiot and if you think this kind of cruelty is acceptable then I have no use for you. I suggest you spend less time on the computer and more time learning grammer and spelling! I'm a vet tech and dedicate my life to helping animals and protecting them from people like you.

Real deal all I can say is you are a true idiot and if you think this kind of cruelty is acceptable then I have no use for you. I suggest you spend less time on the computer and more time learning grammer and spelling! I'm a vet tech and dedicate my life to helping animals and protecting them from people like you.

Real deal all I can say is you are a true idiot and if you think this kind of cruelty is acceptable then I have no use for you. I suggest you spend less time on the computer and more time learning grammer and spelling! I'm a vet tech and dedicate my life to helping animals and protecting them from people like you.

Blacks seem to regress more and more each day. MLK, Malcom X, Ali, and all those great individuals who fought to bring respect to their communities all to waste. All it seems to shine nowadays is the HipHop nonsense. Just keep showing those teeth and dancing for the world's entertainment!!! Ever wonder why there is never a book at any BKB player's home?? oh yessa massa I gon be a gud nigga!!!!!

I say let the dogs fight its a profitable sport, and whomever don't like it don't watch it or comment on it simple as that, peace out.

Hey D-Moe you must be a relative of no real deal punk williefield who can't even spell. Let's put both of you in a ring and whoever wins or loses gets shot. Simple as that!! Peace out you piece of scum.

DOGFIGHTING IS NOT A SPORT!! IT IS CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. POINT BLANK PERIOD. I HAVE A 2 YEAR OLD PIT BULL. SHE IS SPAYED....I DO NOT WANT HER TO HAVE PUPPIES BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT KIND OF HOME AND/OR PEOPLE THE PUPS WOULD GO TO.
DOGFIGHTING IS NOT A SPORT!! IT IS CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. POINT BLANK PERIOD!

I am from southern Illinois where the humane societies deal with this all too frequently. It is also very common for "hunters" if that is what you want to call them, to shoot their dogs in the field or use the shock collars until they drop dead. It is common because they "ain't gonna keep no s.o.b. dog that doesn't do what they tell it to."
People who do these things are psychopaths who know they could go to prison for murdering people. So they get their kicks by torturing and murdering animals. Makes em feel like real men.
The really pathetic thing about it all is how so many people accept it because "God give us these critters to use." I can only hope with all my heart that these individuals will die slow and torturous deaths.

those who think pits are pussie cats should check there early breeding by the kings of the old days they were fight dogs then and now thats why they have abox head is for all those musle for biting power AND IF YOU DO'NT LIKE MY SPEELING GET A JOB WITH OUT A CP TO DO IT FOR YOU

number one it is sick but the white people use the dogs for hog hunt thats cool but when you got a man fighting dogs for money and shit yall feel sorry .what about deer hunting yall kill them and put them on the wall man thats bull shit to all the shit need to be the same because i support vick vick fan so fuck it

Um to the retarded fuck who just posted the comment about deer hunting, it's not the same as brutally torturing dogs by having them rip each other to shreds for the sick pleasure of pieces of fucking shit idiots to enjoy. I am not a deer hunter but they are in a whole different category. Vick is going to hell just like you. so fuck yourself.

Hey, any person who believes dog fighting is okay can just climb into the ring with the dogs and see how good they do against the dogs with only their teeth. Yep, that certainly is dog fighting as it is meant to be. Real Deal, you and Vick can do a tag team. I would pay to see that.

all you people are STUPID!!! research the american pitbull terrier, that is the breeds name. not pitbull, not pits. go to the library and do some history digging. take out the truth of the american pitbull terrier by richard stratton. these majestic dogs were selectively bred to fight since the 1900's. yes it is a bloodsport and i dont condone dogfighting i dont like it. but they are what they are. i am the proud owner of a few american pitbull terriers, yes they are aggressive towards other dogs, and yes they will fight. its in them. you can't forget that, if you decide to get one. please do your research. knowledge is power. each breed of dog regardless what they are were breed for a typical purpose. unfortunately my breed was bred to fight. please before anyone judges, all i ask is do the research..

Real Deal - You need to learn how to spell, put a sentence together and use the proper punctuation!!! You embarass yourself by your lack of writing skills. Others of you need to learn what to capitialize and what not to capitialize. As for the dogs and their plight, I think it is horrible and the people involved in dog fighting should be jailed for life and given bread and water for the remainder of their days!
I have 2 dogs and a cat myself and I wouldn't think of shooting them, beating them or not getting them to the vets office....

First off to the very first post-you are an idiot and your post was obviously meant to piss people off. Then to Jane from Southern Ill. who says it's common for hunters to shoot thier dogs or use shock collars until they drop dead, you have no idea what you are talking about. Our dogs are our hunting partners, freinds and family and are treated like such. As far as dog fighting goes it is sick and wrong and anyone who does it or even goes to watch it should be prosicuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Ok Look I have had a total of 32 pits that have all been rescued from guys just like those just arrested. I know that this is a sore subject among most people, but 1st it is not a color or "race" thing all races dogfight. Next if you were beat, not fed and lock away from all contact with humans or other animals, feed gun powder or given raw bloody meat it is going to make you a killer. You are going to want to protect yourself. Pits are dogs that show great loyalty to thier leader weather it is a human or a lead dog and they will do what it takews to please thier master. I had a 4 week old puppy that was weak and the size of a 2 week old pup that had been fed cociane to make her mean, she is now a 45 lb loving tender and happy 1 year old dog. I am with several others here, I think that fighters should get the the same treatment that the dogs that they abused get. As for the ones that they shoot "God Knows what I am about to say is odd" but they are in a better place then with those bastards. For all ANIMALS have a place in HEAVEN no matter what they do. But as for the ONES THAT MISTREAT OR NEGELETE ANIMALS THEY CAN GO RIGHT TO HELL. Also if my spelling is bad it is because I have tears and heart break for the poor dogs that are going to be put down becasue of some dumdass human.

are u ppl kidding me.its all about the money, plain and simple. i've seen 50,000 on one dog fight. gov. wants piece of the pie. if they were betting a dollar, they wouldn't give a shit. they have done far worse on are own soldiers. the dumb asses are the one's that believe the humane society is any better.. how many animals are killed every day at these shelters. (humanely)crock of shit.. a kill is a kill any way you want to look at it. it's all about the ben franklins.

The sad thing now, is what will happen to these 200+ dogs? I hope to God they will be given the chance that the Vick dogs received. So, pit lovers and dog lovers of all breeds, please consider fostering or giving a forever home to a pitbull in need. Rescues are full and in desperate need of loving homes. Please do not breed or buy while shelter pitbulls die. Many of you have written that justice would be for these people to be put in the ring face-to-face with their dogs. Unfortunately, these dogs would just show them love, forgiveness and a bunch of big, sloppy kisses. I hope it is not the fate of these dogs to be euthanized and the people arrested to be briefly locked up and then released to be given another chance to live their lives. I think justice would be for it to be the other way around and the dogs to be given another chance at life.
To D-Moe: It's a good thing your comment was short because I have a feeling that D-Moe you talk da stupider you sound. LOL
To Spawn: Your research of dog fighting should also have told you that in the early 1900's dogs were tested for gameness and once in the ring the fight was over as soon as one of the dogs turned their head. They were not fought to the brutal, bloody end the way they are now. And, they went home still to be loved by their owner. Also, this was a relatively short lived sport as it didn't take long for people to realize what a wonderful indoor, family pet pitbulls were and most people started seeing these scraps as inhumane. It was NOTHING like the fights the dogs are subjected to now and it was still considered cruel to most people.
TO REAL DEAL: Well, there is just no hope for you I have a feeling.
TO NIECEY: Thank you for what you are doing to help the most hated, most misunderstood and most discriminated against breed that has ever lived. The breed needs more people like you to speak out and get involved the way you do. God Bless You, Sweetie!! And, keep up the good work because I truly believe we are making a difference!!

P.S. One of my pitbulls is 15 yrs and 8 mo old today

OK OK Yes these people should be punished for breaking the law. But some of you guys comments on how they should be punished leads one to believe you are not far from the same. There were days when certain people did force humans to fight or die, because they were christians or slaves...remember. Nature did not intend for any of our so called pets to be housed, domesticated, or treated the way we do. But we go against nature and do it anyway...Why? Because thats what we want to do. Doesn't matter if it's right or wrong. This is what really bothers me... We have all these people who want to kill a human being because of fighting dogs, when there are starving, homeless, needy, uneducated children and adults within 25 miles of where we sit. What's more profitable? What would be the best use of our time and efforts. killing dog fighters, or saving human lives? Of course some will argue killing dog fighters...lol Anyway, excellent job on busting up that ring!!

More than ever I'm getting that sinking feeling that God gave all the potential and consciousness to a human race that doesn't have a clue what to do with it, nor do they care. They do horrible things to these animals, and much worse to their own kind.

proudpitbullmommy, first i was wrong it was in the very late 1800's. but it didn't take hold till the 1900's by the likes of colby, earl tudor, and others. next it was not a short lived sport. it was offically made illegal in 1976, thats almost 80 yrs. if you call that short lived than you are sadly mistaken. next the match was not over when a dog turns his head. a turn is called and the owner or handler takes his dog to the corner. the dog must perform a scratch. he or see must dart across the line to get at the other dog. if the dog doesn't the dog is counted out and loses the match. or dog just quits and refuses to battle. then the dog is counted out and declared the loser.. our breed were bred for there gameness, so tell me one thing, how can you prove a dogs gameness if 1 dog turns his head in the first 10 to 20 seconds of the match???? i never said that they fought there dogs to the death like the scumbags of today!! yes they were breeders who cast the dogs aside (if you know what i mean) that didn't perform.. but the true dog fancier either kept them because they turned out to be excellent producers of quality stock or they found homes for them. so you see i did do my research, just time and space doesn't allow me to school other people. but i'm happy you do know your history also. bravo!! a fellow american pitbull terrier lover. and dont get me wrong and i dont mean no disrespect a fellow dogwoman. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9c0KaLjKrI&feature=email

Watch this video to see what is happening to coyotes and foxes in the wild. This is the same as dog fighting.

and if anyone care to notice. not ONE american pitbull terrier in that horrible video

Spawn--By no means did I intend to disrespect you either. You are absolutely right in what you have said. I guess for the same reasons as you I didn't choose to elaborate on the details either and to be quite honest, it has been awhile since I researched the subject and the exact details were kinda foggy. Thank you for correcting me and refreshing my memory. I guess mostly the point I was trying to get across to all the "real deals" out there is, you think you know, but you don't know and it is a disgrace to the breed and those of us that love the breed. And, please quit breeding your dogs because they don't even look like pits anymore. like my friend said, do some research and read about colby bloodlines and the books by richard stratton.