July 29, 2009

Senate Vote: Passengers Stuck on Planes


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Give us free! A Senate panel has voted to force Airlines to let passengers off a plane when it's on the tarmac for 3 hours and over.

Airlines haven't wanted to go along with this measure, claming it would increase delays and make everything worse in the long run, but consumer advocate groups have been pushing for years to set passengers free. This Senate vote for passengers stuck on planes, is not binding yet, and the right solution is still being worked out. Supporters of the rule stress that there would be limitations and exceptions in place, to make sure it didn't do more harm than good.


Senate Vote: FREEDOM for Passengers Stuck on Planes!
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"The measure, prompted by lengthy runway delays that garnered national attention, has been opposed by airlines, which say the loss of flexibility could worsen delays. The rule would allow an additional 30 minutes at pilots' discretion and exempt cases when safety is at risk..."

Senate Vote: FREEDOM for Passengers Stuck on Planes!

Posted at July 29, 2009 12:47 PM
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3 HOUES IS TOO LONG,1 HOUR IS THE MOST, I FEEL.

Posted by: RONNIE TEMPLE at July 29, 2009 1:48 PM

3 HOUES IS TOO LONG,1 HOUR IS THE MOST, I FEEL.

Posted by: RONNIE TEMPLE at July 29, 2009 1:48 PM

I say an hour and a half and then they set you free. Coming home from ARuba this year there was a bad storm so after the 5 hour flight we circled Newark for an hour, then got diverted to Philim landed there, sat on tarmac for 2 hours. Then finally they shot us back to Newark for landing. It was horrible. I say no more than an hour and a half.

Posted by: Sally at July 29, 2009 2:50 PM

The 3 hour wait should be foreseen and in that case the airline should not have boarded the passengers in the first place. This is what needs to be addressed and corrected.

The Senate can't just make a bill saying they have to take off within 3 hours. If so, I'd hate to be on the plane that is forced to take off at 2 hours and 59 minutes.

Posted by: Brian at July 29, 2009 2:54 PM

Three hous is OK if there is sufficient water on board and heat/air conditioning. Also, all of the rest rooms should be in operating order. We were stuck once on a plane for six hours. The restrooms malfunctioned and there was limited air conditioning and no food. It was horrible. We were then dumped into a midwest airport at midnight, still no food available and 2000 passengers from 12 planes!!!

Posted by: Earla at July 29, 2009 4:28 PM

You have to take in account that the flight staff in general do not get paid for the flight until the doors are closed. In this day and age you know what your 30 minute drive home will be like and how to avoid it. The airlines can't tell when to board an airplane? If the need the gate for an arriving flight than push away and let the minimal crew wait.

Posted by: Lewis Stiles at July 29, 2009 5:13 PM

1.5 HOURS SHOULD BE THE MAXIMUM TIME TO SIT ON A NON-MOVING PLANE. MAY PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF, FLY WITH CLAUSTROPHOBIA, AND TO BE SHUT UP IN A PLANE FOR MORE THAN 2 HOURS WITH NO A/C OR FOOD WOULD BE TERRIBLE. HOWEVER, GLAD TO SEE THIS IS UP BEFORE THE SENATE...FINALLY WE WILL GET SOME ATTENTION.

Posted by: LIV at July 29, 2009 7:21 PM

The Air Transport Assn. of America, which represents most major domestic airlines, successfully sued to block the New York law from taking effect. spokesman David A. Castelveter said.

"We will not rule out our right to a legal challenge," he said, explaining that the association contests "the rights of states to legislate airline customer service."

What about the rights of American citizens to suffer inhumane conditions and to be held against their will? I think that three hours is way too long to be belted into a seat and not allowed to get up, move around, drink some water, use the restroom, etc. My bladder is not ruled by the Air Transport Assn. of America or any particular airline.

I agree that the airlines should know well enough to delay boarding time until the flight is ready to depart.

Posted by: Sally at July 29, 2009 7:39 PM

The delay is one thing-not to have food or properly functioning a/c and toilets is unreasonable. I would personally report the airline and boycott them for life if the above conditions were not met. Remember the fellow that had his guitar broken and the airline would not repair it even though the baggage handlers damaged it.His U tube got results. Mine would be presented also if humane and confortable conditions were not met.

Posted by: Greg at July 29, 2009 9:11 PM

The delay is one thing-not to have food or properly functioning a/c and toilets is unreasonable. I would personally report the airline and boycott them for life if the above conditions were not met. Remember the fellow that had his guitar broken and the airline would not repair it even though the baggage handlers damaged it.His U tube got results. Mine would be presented also if humane and confortable conditions were not met.

Posted by: Greg at July 29, 2009 9:11 PM

Here's a thought, take the train!

Posted by: JT at July 29, 2009 10:20 PM

3 hours--they must be kidding!
Ive often wondered just what the air crew thinks they would do if, after it was obvious the plane was to be significantly delayed, a passenger simply got up, opened the door, deployed the chute and debarked!
What are they going to do---shoot them?????
That is what they would have to do to me as I have claustrophobia and severe allergies and being shut in with perfumes, tobacco odor, etc would be excruciating. Id rather take my chances with leaving!

Posted by: American at July 29, 2009 11:30 PM

Thats bullshit, we shouldnt have to wait at all!

Posted by: Stecven at July 29, 2009 11:58 PM

How about 3 hours late (or bumped because they overbooked the flight) and they have to refund ALL your money for ALL segments of your trip (including hotels) in cash RIGHT THEN, pay for hotels, food, and drink for you while you're waiting for them to make good on their end of the deal (to transport you to your destination on schedule... a deal they horribly reneged on when you were 3 hours late to your final destination)...

make them pay and they'll schedule reasonably, won't overbook so severely, won't change gates multiple times (often without announcements... a Chicago O'Hare favorite), et cetera

Posted by: J. B. Books at July 30, 2009 12:28 AM

When coming home from Iraq, (Mind you, I had already been away for 3 days, any sleep I got was sitting up, had not showered for 2, and been on a plane for approx 20 hours) I was LIVID when my plane in ATL got stuck for 2 hours on my way home.

Yes, they should let people off a plane. The airport should provide a shuttle service on the tarmac that transport customers to an Oasis of some sort on the tarmac for such instances. Even if you had not gone through the long flight I had, sitting that long in those tiny little places...is still agonizing, is still (can be I should say) painful, and even worse when all you want to do is just lay down...

Posted by: Giselle at July 30, 2009 1:28 AM

Here's the fix folks.

Lawmakers, airline execs and their lawyers should all be required to sit in a plane at DFW during the summer, for 3 hours plus the 1/2 hour extra at the pilot's discretion. No water, no functioning toilets (at my flight, the toilets were so full from the flight, that they were full and could not be used). I don't care if it departure or arriving, 3 - 3 1/2 hours locked up is not part of the service, economy or firts class, in my opinion.

None of these rules should be made by people who do not experience this type of cattle treatment themselves.
It's about as ridiculous at voting on un-read bills. Too bad that this has become the norm.

1 hour tops, then out of the plane.

Posted by: Hugh VanderHeul at July 30, 2009 1:31 AM

Is it just me or shouldn't congress stay out of how to tell a business how to do things. For a law to tell one type of company when to let their customers off in a layover, just ridiculous. I hate staying on planes just as much as the other guy. One thing I hate worse is to see congress infringe where they do not need to. This should be left to a company practice. If the company thinks their customers will like it better and it will bring more travelers their way then let them do it. STOP TELLING BUSINESSES HOW THEY SHOULD DO THINGS.........

Posted by: Like My Freedoms at July 30, 2009 8:46 AM

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